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Kherlakyan Hanan3,412HERE'S VERSION 91 OF MY SHARED PUBLIC CIRCLEUPDATED WEDNESDAY 1/21/2014▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔Let's break 500 shares again and keep the momentum going! These are the best of the best engagers from all walks of life. Give yourself a little diversity and add these great people to your circles.➤ To be added into the next share, follow these simple steps:  1) Add the circle2) Plus the original post3) Share the circle publicly (and with your circles/extended circles)4) Comment on the original post when complete #circleshare #circlesharing #sharedcircles #sharingcircles #sharedpubliccircles #sharedcircleoftheday #circlesunday #share #shared #followers #addcircles #publicsharedcircles #share #addpeople #addcircle #addfriends #circle #socialmedia 2015-01-21 23:43:32500215
Brian Mcquillan19,804Boost your visibility on Google+ - Share the circle!To be added to or stay in this Circle - Share the circleIf you received the notice you are in this circle, then well done.If you would like to be included in the next Circle Share, you only have to do these simple steps:1 - Include me in your circles2 - Share the circle (Publicly)3 - Add +1 to the post.4 - Leave a comment if you like.I will thankful if you plus and share this circle!#circles #Gif #Cute #Anime #Animals #Online #Life #CatLovers #Cat #FunnyPics #Quote #Art #CaturdayEveryday #QuoteOfTheDay #Truth #Dog #Dogs #XD #Meme #LOL #Humor #Cute #Anime #Gif #Animals #Cat #CatLovers #Art #Online #Cats #Life #FunnyPics #CaturdayEveryday #Dog #Quote #Dogs #Truth #Manga 2015-01-15 07:18:52498323
John Cleese10,248Hey my friends. Good morning/evening to all! Circle brings together nice and interesting peopleIf you want to be a part of my best shared circles, this is the circle, you may want to add and share circle.Share The Circle And Boost Your Visibility On G+1. Add us to your circles, if you haven't done so already2. +1 this circle3. Publicly share this circle to public, your circles and extended circles.4. If possible, leave a comment on this circle so we know you have done the three steps above.Please make sure you do it on the original post or I won't notice it More you share more you get!#circleoftheday #sharedcircle #topsharedcircle #sharedcircleoftheday #myseoissocial #besocial #socializethesocial #trust #circles #circleshare #sharedcircle #circlesharing #followers #social #socialnetworking #topsharedcircle #circleoftheday #googleplus #communities #topsocialcircle #influencers #influencer #socialnetworking #betrustable #popularitycircle #trustablesharedcircle #cerchiacondivisa #circuloscompartidos #smiletolife2015-01-15 05:26:16493000
Terry Dyke1,332The #CulturalCreatives circle -- a carefully-vetted group of 100 artists, writers, makers, and thinkers on G+.They all have 1000+ followers and post actively. Most tend toward the humanist/progressive/green end of things, and all have a creatively provocative take on this stuff that fills our waking hours.If you are interested in joining the circle and expanding it, please do the following:1. Add this to your circles2. Add yourself to the circle3. Share the expanded circle to Public4. Include comments and #CulturalCreatives tagThanks!Terry Dyke#CulturalCreatives  #circles  #circlesharing   #sharedcircles    #publiccircles2015-01-13 00:56:20100000
Harry Day13,177*If You recieve this message You are included in circle !!!To get in, and to ensure you stay in #thebestfriends  circle you need to do the following:1. Include me in your circles...!!!2.  Add the circle if you can, if not try again later.3. Plus this post...!!4. Publicly share this circle...!!5. Leave a comment on this circle so I know you have done the three steps above...!!!*#photography  #circlesharingforthepeopleplc  #sharedpubliccircles #sharedcircles #share #sharedcircleoftheday #sharewithyou #circlethursday #followme #followers #followback #circle #googleplus #coolpeople #circleshare #sharedcircles #sharedcircle #frankfurt #germany #hamburg #germany #munich #greece #greece #athens #greece #heraklion #greece #rhodes #portugal #funchal #portugal #lisbon #portugal 2015-01-09 10:32:47496112
Kherlakyan Hanan2,725HERE'S VERSION 89 OF MY SHARED PUBLIC CIRCLEUPDATED WEDNESDAY 1/7/2014▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔Let's break 500 shares again and keep the momentum going! These are the best of the best engagers from all walks of life. Give yourself a little diversity and add these great people to your circles.➤ To be added into the next share, follow these simple steps:  1) Add the circle2) Plus the original post3) Share the circle publicly (and with your circles/extended circles)4) Comment on the original post when complete #circleshare #circlesharing #sharedcircles #sharingcircles #sharedpubliccircles #sharedcircleoftheday #circlesunday #share #shared #followers #addcircles #publicsharedcircles #share #addpeople #addcircle #addfriends #circle #socialmedia 2015-01-08 21:33:53500328
Timothy J. Holloway4,394"Canadians" I'm sharing all my circles publicly. This is one of them. Unfortunately, this circle is really 512 for me but only 500 of you have been shared. Which 12 have been cut is outside my knowledge and awareness....2015-01-03 02:42:44500000
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Brian Harrod10,635Star Wars Circle #sharedcircles   #sharedpubliccircles   #magnetixcircles   #engagerscircle   #circleoftheday   #addcircle   #addmetoyourcircles   #addpeople   #ripplescircle   #follow4follow   #circlesharing   #googlepluscircles  2014-12-27 03:47:57436100
Kherlakyan Hanan2,011AQUI ESTÁ VERSÃO 86-B ao meu círculo pública compartilhada ATUALIZADO sábado 2014/12/20 ▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔ Vamos quebrar 500 partes novamente e manter o ritmo! Estes são os melhores dos melhores Engagers de todas as esferas da vida. Dê a si mesmo um pouco de diversidade e adicionar estas grandes pessoas aos seus círculos. ➤ Para ser adicionado para a próxima ação, siga estes simples passos: 1) Adicionar o círculo 2) Além disso, o post original 3) Compartilhe o círculo publicamente (e com os seus círculos / círculos estendidos) 4) Comente sobre o post original quando completa #circleshare #circlesharing #sharedcircles #sharingcircles #sharedpubliccircles #sharedcircleoftheday #circlesunday #share #shared #followers #addcircles #publicsharedcircles #share #addpeople #addcircle #addfriends #circle #socialmedia2014-12-24 03:37:555014210
Ruta a la Patagonia11,603┊ ☆ ┊☆ ┊ ☆ ┊Great Friends v12 CIRCLE  ┊ ☆ ┊☆ ┊☆┊_____________________________________________________●❈●❈●❉●  Please Share From The Original Post! ●❈●❈●❉●▼▼▼▼▼▼▼ CLICK READ MORE FOR FULL CONTENT ▼▼▼▼▼▼▼This is the Great Friends v12 Google Plus CircleIf you want to participate please kindly frollow the following rules::-)1. Add me to your circles if you haven´t done it already2. Share this circle to Public3. Plus or coment this post so we know you wish to participate in upcoming circlesPlease note:● You must be an active Google+ user and shares useful content.● Your posts must be family-friendly. No adult, gambling, controversial, politics, religion blogs.Have a nice day!Your blogging friends of:       De camino al Sur el mejor hotel  para alojarte sobre ruta 5, antes de Santa Rosa La Pampa, esta en Trenque Lauquen: +Howard Johnson Hotel Trenque Lauquen   Sobre ruta, con amplio parque, pileta climatizada, estacionamiento, wifi, restobar y mucho mas. Ya sea que vayas de camino a Bariloche, San Martin de los Andes, Villa la Angostura o cualquier otro destino de la cordillera o de la costa de la patagonia (por ruta 33).Consultanos:  www.hjtrenquelauquen.com.ar #Patagonia   #Bariloche   #SanMartin   #LaAngostura   #SantaRosa   #LaPampa   #TrenqueLauquen   #ruta5   #Hotel   #howardJohnson   #alojamiento  2014-12-21 18:56:42498655495
Natural Remedy for Diabetes1,975Share Circle2014-12-14 18:12:22499111
Ruta a la Patagonia - Bariloche10,286┊ ☆ ┊☆ ┊ ☆ ┊WORLD GEMS v3 CIRCLE  ┊ ☆ ┊☆ ┊☆┊_____________________________________________________●❈●❈●❉●  Please Share From The Original Post! ●❈●❈●❉●▼▼▼▼▼▼▼ CLICK READ MORE FOR FULL CONTENT ▼▼▼▼▼▼▼This is the WORLD GEMS v3 Google Plus CircleIf you want to participate please kindly frollow the following rules::-)1. Add me to your circles if you haven´t done it already2. Share this circle to Public3. Plus or coment this post so we know you wish to participate in upcoming circlesPlease note:● You must be an active Google+ user and shares useful content.● Your posts must be family-friendly. No adult, gambling, controversial, politics, religion blogs.Have a nice day!Your blogging friends of: +Ruta a la Patagonia - Bariloche +Howard Johnson Hotel Trenque Lauquen   www.hjtrenquelauquen.com.ar #circle   #circleshare   #patagonia   #hotel   #HowardJohnson   #TrenqueLauquen  2014-12-12 20:16:07499293450
Ruta a la Patagonia - Bariloche9,995┊ ☆ ┊☆ ┊ ☆ ┊WORLD GEMS v2 CIRCLE  ┊ ☆ ┊☆ ┊☆┊_____________________________________________________●❈●❈●❉●  Please Share From The Original Post! ●❈●❈●❉●▼▼▼▼▼▼▼ CLICK READ MORE FOR FULL CONTENT ▼▼▼▼▼▼▼This is the WORLD GEMS v2 Google Plus CircleIf you want to participate please kindly frollow the following rules::-)1. Add me to your circles if you haven´t done it already2. Share this circle to Public3. Plus or coment this post so we know you wish to participate in upcoming circlesPlease note:● You must be an active Google+ user and shares useful content.● Your posts must be family-friendly. No adult, gambling, controversial, politics, religion blogs.Have a nice day!Your blogging friends of:  +Ruta a la Patagonia - Bariloche +Howard Johnson Hotel Trenque Lauquen   www.hjtrenquelauquen.com.ar #circle   #circleshare   #patagonia   #TrenqueLauquen   #Hotel   #howardJOhnson   #bariloche   #SantaRosa                           2014-12-11 16:35:50499215
michael Addi012/10/2014   #CircleShare  And have a good night/morning!2014-12-11 04:11:524007461105
michael Addi0#CircleShare   12/5/2014Have a good day everyone.2014-12-05 14:44:434329780126
michael Addi0Today's Circle Share - 11/19/2014 #circleshare  Great people and pages in this circle. Have a great day! 2014-11-19 13:55:35429211229
Tarık Bulut238#growthcircle   #circleshare   This is my 21st circle share of this circle and I hope to get over 400+ shares and continue to grow this as time goes on.  This should increase Google Plus comments and plus ones.  This is a circle I created a few months ago and am now sharing with you in hopes that we can all benefit and grow our online presence.  This circle rewards those who take part in interaction as seen below..  #GrowthCircle   For all you SEO and social media marketing needs visit my company  #bosmol #BosmolCircle   #GrowthCIrcle     #GooglePlus   #CircleShare   #sharedpubliccircles   #sharedcircles   #circlesharing   #circleshared   #publiccirclesproject   #publicsharedcircles   #circleoftheday   #google   #circle #circles #publiccircle #sharedcircles   #sharedcircle #morefollowers #sharingcircles #circleshare #sharedpubliccircles #sharedpublicircles   #sharedcircle #AddCircle #FindCircles #addcircle   #circlemeup #circlesdiscovery 2014-07-02 14:40:215015816
Tarık Bulut238Free google Plus FollowersTo be added to the Circle you have to do these simple steps:1 - include me in your circles2 - Click add people and create your circle3 - share the circle (include yourself)4 - add +1 to the post______________________________________ #CircleSharing #Circle#Share#CircleOfTheDay#ShareCircle#Google+#ADD#SharedPublicCircles#Google#SharedCircles#Friends#GooglePlusTips#SocialMedia#AddCircle#Marketing#SocialMediaMarketing#Engagers#AddPeople#PublicSharedCircles#teamelitecircle2014-07-02 12:08:3430010712
Tarık Bulut78 #growthcircle   #circleshare   This is my 21st circle share of this circle and I hope to get over 400+ shares and continue to grow this as time goes on.  This should increase Google Plus comments and plus ones.  This is a circle I created a few months ago and am now sharing with you in hopes that we can all benefit and grow our online presence.  This circle rewards those who take part in interaction as seen below..  #GrowthCircle   For all you SEO and social media marketing needs visit my company  #bosmol #BosmolCircle   #GrowthCIrcle     #GooglePlus   #CircleShare   #sharedpubliccircles   #sharedcircles   #circlesharing   #circleshared   #publiccirclesproject   #publicsharedcircles   #circleoftheday   #google   #circle #circles #publiccircle #sharedcircles   #sharedcircle #morefollowers #sharingcircles #circleshare #sharedpubliccircles #sharedpublicircles   #sharedcircle #AddCircle #FindCircles #addcircle   #circlemeup #circlesdiscovery 2014-07-01 19:46:105015510
michael Addi0If you're receiving this notification then you are in this circle!6/27/2014This circle has a great group of active users on G+, they also share some great content as well.  #circleshare  If you'd like to stay included in this circle, then I ask you to please share this original post.If you want to be excluded, please let me know and you will no longer be included.2014-06-27 18:04:52385112
Maria Morisot34,675Moan Lisa's All Kinds of People Shared Circle27 June, 2014RESHARE if you want to be includedmoanlisa.org2014-06-27 10:54:53299106112154
Tessa Schlesinger20,569This is the circle of people I follow. I am not in it (so I'm not promoting myself). I follow them because they are interesting, sincere, have good stuff. Some of them have been here with me from day one.  They don't always interact every day, but I think it really depends on what you're looking for on G+. If you want people to interact with you, well, nobody can interact with everybody who adds them. There just isn't enough time to do that. On the other hand, if you'd like to read someone because they present informative, interesting, entertaining stuff, then this circle is interesting. I think it would appeal to atheists, agnostics, people who love beauty, travel, occasional humor, who are visual, intellectual, thinkers, humanist, and/or liberal. :)2014-05-08 15:31:52186503
Shashi S5,567Circle of Great Engagers________________________There is no doubt this is one of the most powerful group of engager's who will make your time of exploring worthwhile in Google Plus. Share and enjoy...Sorry if I missed anyone. Please comment I'll include you in the next shared circle. :)Also, This is a Great Circle and includes Google+   #TopEngagers : really interesting and active people on Google Plus to add in your circles.Top Google+ users that share unique and original contents.Follow this advice and grow your G+ community with people that share amazing content that will surprise you:Boost your visibility on Google+ - Share the circle!To be added to the Circle you have to do these simple steps:1 - include me in your circles2 - share the circle (include yourself) *3 - add +1 to the post4 - *Start something new and share with the world of google plusMore you share more you get!__Shashiॐ नमः शिवायOm Namah Shivaya#circles   #circleshare   #circlesharing   #sharedcircles #Friday #sharingcircles   #sharedpubliccircles   #sharedcircleoftheday #circlesunday   #share   #shared   #followers   #addcircles #publicsharedcircles   #share   #addpeople   #addcircle #addfriends   #circle   #empireavenue   #socialmedia     #influencers   #influencer   #influence   #influencermarketing #sundaycircle  2014-04-11 10:40:52294211430
Ole Olson38,548٩(͡๏̯͡๏)۶If you're looking for some of the BEST engagers on Google+, this is it.Top notch commentary, good content support, and some out of this world posts to boot. =========================================I sculpted this circle personally over the last year, and this is it's first full release. The Top Engagers is guaranteed to make your G+ experience better. =========================================    #publicsharedcircles       #publiccircle       #circle         #circles    #thebigcommunity   #kingcircle #topcircleshare   #awesome       #awesomepeople       #shareyourcircle    #circleoftheday         #circleshare       #circlesharing           #sharedcircles       #sharedpubliccircles     #sharedcircleoftheday  2014-01-27 09:48:552507711
Nina Pelletier16,409Thought today would be a good day to share my Canadian Circle .  Some of the very best Canucks are right here on G+ with us :)2014-01-25 19:12:58471216
Ole Olson20,256Top Circlers on the GooglesphereI've been sharing one and only one circle per day lately, picking the most interesting ones I've found. My goal is to share a diverse selection of circles, some based on topics like the environment, or interests like scifi, or well designed share circles. Probably about time I share one of my OWN circles for a change!Below is my recently updated Top Circles circle. These folks have a good track record of forging excellent share circles. Add them immediately.  #HashtagZoo  (concept courtesy of +Peter Edenist) #Circles   #Sharedcircles   #PublicCircles   #topcircles   #circlequeen   #circlemaster   #SharingIsCaring  2013-08-15 08:12:489515820
Shawna Mac22,734Canadian Circle Share - Evening EditionHappy Friday!  Last week there were a few Canadian circle shares and I was circled by a bunch of new Canucks, so I'm sharing mine this week as it is brimming with fresh, active Canadians and will help those new to G+ get some great content in their streams.  Slight emphasis on Nova Scotians mebbe.If you are a Canadian or a new circler and want me to add you, please comment below and I shall be happy to do so (but please have your about me filled out with something other than Viagra ads!)I <3 my Canadians (and I'm notifying you so you know where all the new people are coming from)#Canada #Canadiana #NovaScotia #circleshare #circlesharefriday2013-05-11 00:08:5950128920
Ole Olson13,134My Top Circler CircleSpecial thanks to these people on G+ who have shared me in one of their circles. I don't say it very often, but I really do appreciate it.  As I went over the list on +CircleCount last night, I realized some of these folks had vanished from my own circles, which happens on G+ occasionally, but that has been rectified. These are all fine folks with an eclectic mix of quality posts. Add this circle for some outstanding engagers.   And for others, sculpting quality circles and SHARING them is a very important part to G+. Don't share a circle every day, but do it once in a while to help others find who is important to you on here. Dirk TalamascaAndrey MashnichJack C CrawfordCircleCountEuro MaestroSusanne RamharterMark SDaniel HarringtonPaul MeulmanRandy HilarskiJUSTIN MATTHEW (shouting!)Gideon RosenblattTrever McGheeArmando LiossMike ClancyJohn HardyRob SalzmanJason Hurtado DanielsAlister MacintyreTina ValeJohn KelldenBob MulhollandDaniel SandsteinJari HuomoGabriel FitzpatrickGiovanni TotaroRae OuztsDaniele VegaMelissa WalkerKimberly CrawleyShaun WheldenRichard Greenjohn sawyerWes ForsterMarko Shiva PavlovicWataru TengaDavid BeeAtheismJohn DoeMelisa BeliwiczErik BarrettAmy McLeodAaron StanleyJeffrey HarringtonJason MDaniel VoisinBill SewardAndrew HartwellJoys Maclaurinmatt vovakiss #CircleShare   #SharedCircles   #SharedPublicCircles   #CircleOfTheDay   #Engagers  2013-04-23 13:27:015013615
Bob Mulholland12,616Inform | Act | Share | Stay Aware #InformActShareStayAware  #InternetFreedom   #SharedCircle  *Part 1 of 2*With the impending #Anonymous  day of action tomorrow #PM2012 , here's a Circle of people who care about internet freedom.+1 or share to be added.2012-12-20 18:51:28490916
Trever McGhee17,563+Take2seconds to check out this circle of amazing people made up of great Artists and Art lovers that +Nicolas Green has found, along with some other extraordinary people that I've added that share inspiring posts.+Take2seconds today and everyday to click the +1...the share button on positive posts that make you smile, for it's guaranteed to make someone else smile as well when you share it on the public stream.Share circles of people that are making a difference with their posts, with their shares.+Nothing but Circles +CircleCount  #SharedCircles   +Best Shared Circle    #circle   #share   #publiccircle   +Public Circles 2012-12-20 17:58:02444502236
Bob Mulholland12,239#InternetFreedom   #SharedCircle  [Part 1 of 2]+1 to be added. I don't notify anymore, but all #InternetFreedom  related posts have this added:Inform | Act | Share | Stay Aware #InformActShareStayAware 2012-12-04 15:15:2349251011
Brian Buckley0Sharing my first group of awesome Canadians. I had to cap it at <500 so I could share. My next post will be the second smaller circle that has grown out of folks who connected after I shared the first one. Are you a Canadian want to be to be added? Send me a comment, +1, or circle me.2012-10-28 17:16:3449110111
Brian Buckley0Here is my circle of amazing Canadian plussers. I actually have 521 but G+ has limited the share to 500. I'll meed to split it into 2 groups. If you're not in this circle and would like to be comment and I'll add you into one of my two circles - If you are in fact Canadian. Be awesome if you want to re-share. You may be one of the 21 G+ cut out.2012-10-13 17:20:45500736
Anna Mannino2,231Whether you have told me you write, or you participated in #NaNoWriMo last year, this is my circle of writers. Strangely only 500 people can be shared at a time, so this is only most of you.If you'd like to be in my writers circle, let me know. I mostly post around and about NaNoWriMo stuff. I try to also do a lot of hangouts to help those who need the support of a local meetup but can't make their local meetups for whatever reason, or just prefer talking to strangers on the internet as opposed to strangers in a coffee house. (Whatever, I don't judge).2012-10-02 04:30:31501501
Bob Mulholland9,885#InternetFreedom #CircleShare #SharedCircles  Part 1 of 2+1 the post to be included, +1 my first comment to also be notified (although these types of posts are becoming less and less common)2012-10-01 02:46:474983213
Alister Macintyre9,520Here is my circle of people who like to (and have demonstrated capability of) having a civilized conversation about Current Events from a Progressive point of view.2012-09-11 06:05:57252533
Zachary Roovenback1,335Sharing my Atheist and Fellow Freethinkers circle again.  Almost 1,800 strong.  You can only add 500 a day, so let me know if you need it shared again.Stay thinking, my friends.2012-08-10 04:29:445016310
David Waddington2,256An updated Canadian's on Google+ circle.Feel free to share.If you are a Canadian and would like to be added to this circle just make a comment. When I plus 1 your comment you have been added.These are not just photographers. This is a mix of many interests.2012-07-27 23:54:124301015
Bob Mulholland7,562Sorry it's been a couple weeks, but Melissa is going to have the baby any day now and my focus now needs to be offline most of the time.After Zane has been born, my posts will become regular again.#InternetFreedom   #CircleShare  [part 1 of 2]Inform | Act | Share | Stay Aware+1 if you want in+1 my first comment if you also want notifications. #InformActShareStayAware  2012-07-17 17:15:194947210
David Waddington2,233I am sharing my circle for Canadians that are on Google+I try to add as many as I can. If you are not in this circle and wish to be added just make a comment. If your comment gets plus 1'd by me then you have been added. I will share this circle again at a later date with new additions.I also have a circle for users in Edmonton. If you are in Edmonton and wish to be added just note in your comment that you are in Edmonton.  I have added quite a few users from Edmonton in the last while. One thing I have noticed is many haven't filled out their profile. If you wish to have people follow you it's a good idea to fill out a profile and put it in why people might be interested in following you.Lets grow our circles!  :) #circleshare #circles #circlesharing #circleshared  2012-07-16 00:35:063512004
Bob Mulholland5,392Do you want to #StopCISPA ?So do these people. This is my Internet Freedom Circle. If you aren't in this Circle but should be, click +1 and I'll add you to it.If you also want to be notified when important posts regarding Internet Freedom are shared, click +1 on my first comment. (no more than 5 per day, usually only one or two)Edit: Sorry, I got distracted by something shiny and forgot to comment. Look for comment number 6 or 7.2012-04-20 13:46:4424021626
Bob Mulholland5,230Inform | Act | Share | Stay AwareIt's a little late this week, but here's this week's share of my Internet Freedom Circle. You know the drill by now, folks:If you're not already here and you want to be added to this Circle, click +1 on either of the first two comments. UPDATED: Oopsie! I got distracted by a funny picture and forgot to make the comments, so look for comments 6 and 7[clicking +1 on the main post does not automatically get you included in the Circle]2012-04-17 12:58:24228707
Mike Norton2,517SWTOR Circle ShareWe are a bit overdue for a SWTOR Circle share. So here it is :)Please be sure to mention in your profile somewhere you play SWTOR to help others circle you back.Please reshare.2012-04-13 14:35:23500312
Mark Gesswein3,076Maybe this #sharedcircle already came across your way. Otherwise I recommend to take a closer look at it, cause you will find some inspiring people. Of course you can also simply follow the whole circle :-)Happy Easter!#sharedcircles #HighQualitySharingPeopleOfG+2012-04-09 14:56:14164223
Marc Jansen17,871Sharing the LoveI freely admit that +Bearman Cartoons came up with this idea first (Hell, I'd better own up to that, considering that I publicly proclaimed my desire to steal borrow this idea on his thread!)This circle is made up of all of the people who've included me in very nearly 150 publicly-shared circles, as captured by +CircleCount.com.There are, or course, a lot of the Usual Suspects here, people like +Peter G McDermott , +Michael Anderson, +stephanie wanamaker , and +Eoghann Irving.What I found most enlightening is that fact that I actually found a handful of names that I didn't recognize here. People who have apparently taken some level interest in me without me even realizing it. People like +Fred Wierda, +Nate Smith, +tam frager, and +Zach Harper, to name a few.I just wanted to follow +Bearman Cartoons lead and thank each of these people and to repay the favor. THIS JUST IN: It seems that I missed +Shay Dougan and +Kevin Medeiros when I put this together - my apologies to both of you for the oversight!(Oh, and lest anyone cares to give me a hard time for adding myself, +CircleCount tells me that I somehow managed to share myself out at least once... ;-) )2012-03-24 03:37:2075717
Shane Pitre2,308Canadian 1 - is now full!Starting a Canadian 2 Circle.If you're Canadian, and you're awesome, and you want to be hooped; +1, comment, share, kick me, whatever.My goal is to see how many Canadians we can get in shared circles.Please make sure your profile is filled out+Shared Circles on G+ #sharedcircles #circleshare #canada #canadian2012-03-13 23:19:04501101117
Shane Pitre2,172CanadiansIf you're Canadian, and you're awesome, and you want to be hooped; +1, comment, share, kick me, whatever.My goal is to see how many Canadians we can get in shared circles.Please make sure your profile is filled out+Shared Circles on G+ #canada #canadian #sharedcircles2012-03-11 16:30:414399910
Mike Norton2,353SWTOR Circle Share 2 of 2Please share these circles of awesome people who play or follow Star Wars the Old Republic. Also please help others who discover you by putting somewhere in your profile that you are interested in SWTOR.2012-02-01 02:47:09376003
Mike Norton2,227SWTOR Circle Share 2 of 2Please put somewhere on your profile that you are interested in SWTOR so everyone knows what circle to put you in.2012-01-17 15:01:13364000

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2015-02-11 11:57:35 (24 comments, 1 reshares, 0 +1s)Open 

If you take a look at the attached Facebook profile you'll see it's a petty standard atheist profile. Except in this case the owner just killed three Muslim students at chapel hill university.

Should we blame his anti theism for the murders? If not why? If this had of been three Christian, Jewish, or atheists dead and the Facebook profile was filled with Islamic content wouldn't we see the words extremist or terrorist invoked almost immediately? 

Most reshares: 6

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2015-02-11 13:36:21 (5 comments, 6 reshares, 30 +1s)Open 

This is the exact advice I give to young people when they complain about love or lack thereof. Any relationship is most valuable in what it can teach you about yourself rather than what it can confirm. 

Most plusones: 30

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2015-02-11 13:36:21 (5 comments, 6 reshares, 30 +1s)Open 

This is the exact advice I give to young people when they complain about love or lack thereof. Any relationship is most valuable in what it can teach you about yourself rather than what it can confirm. 

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2015-02-20 17:48:21 (2 comments, 0 reshares, 3 +1s)Open 

A former candidate for the U.S. presidency has come down hard on the Canadian government's new anti-terrorism bill, calling it a crass effort to "sell the politics of fear."

Ralph Nader says Prime Minister Stephen Harper is exaggerating the threat of Islamic terrorism and his paranoia has now exceeded Dick Cheney's.

A former candidate for the U.S. presidency has come down hard on the Canadian government's new anti-terrorism bill, calling it a crass effort to "sell the politics of fear."

Ralph Nader says Prime Minister Stephen Harper is exaggerating the threat of Islamic terrorism and his paranoia has now exceeded Dick Cheney's.___

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2015-02-18 23:05:30 (2 comments, 0 reshares, 1 +1s)Open 

Is your brain smarter and faster than a video gamer's? Try the simple tests in this talk:

Is your brain smarter and faster than a video gamer's? Try the simple tests in this talk:___

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2015-02-17 22:33:50 (0 comments, 0 reshares, 0 +1s)Open 

We asked the +United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees (UNHCR) team in Sweden why they chose to use images from Google Search in their latest video, “The Search for Syria.” Here’s what they had to say:

"The violent conflict in Syria has been going on for almost 4 years forcing almost 4 million people to flee their home and seek protection with UNHCR in the neighbouring countries. We saw a risk of people losing focus on the humanitarian emergency and wanted to get people's attention.

Google is an everyday tool for people and can transport us to other places in a microsecond. By using Google search we were able to cut the mental distance between us in Sweden and emergency in Syria. It made it real."

Watch the video and see what you think: http://youtu.be/O0ndziagqtQ

We asked the +United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees (UNHCR) team in Sweden why they chose to use images from Google Search in their latest video, “The Search for Syria.” Here’s what they had to say:

"The violent conflict in Syria has been going on for almost 4 years forcing almost 4 million people to flee their home and seek protection with UNHCR in the neighbouring countries. We saw a risk of people losing focus on the humanitarian emergency and wanted to get people's attention.

Google is an everyday tool for people and can transport us to other places in a microsecond. By using Google search we were able to cut the mental distance between us in Sweden and emergency in Syria. It made it real."

Watch the video and see what you think: http://youtu.be/O0ndziagqtQ___

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2015-02-15 15:44:11 (0 comments, 0 reshares, 2 +1s)Open 

1:09 "religion at one time was considered a mental illness"
http://www.baylorisr.org/wp-content/uploads/levin_religion_mental_health.pdf

Starting off right from the start you are wrong.  There was a diagnoses of extreme cases that included symptoms of  cases exemplifying cognitive incoherence, catatonia, delusion, magical thinking, hallucinations, or schizotypal disorders.  This only applied to extreme cases not all religious people and these ideas were later reformed after further research.  Now the following is all taken from the same article FF is referencing.

"In the early 1980s, literature reviews began summarizing this work, by then consisting of about 200 empirical studies of  various outcomes (e.g. Gartner, Larson, & Allen, 1981; Larson, Pattison, Blazer, Omran, & Kaplan, 1986). The verdict was consistent. According to one authoritativerevi... more »

1:09 "religion at one time was considered a mental illness"
http://www.baylorisr.org/wp-content/uploads/levin_religion_mental_health.pdf

Starting off right from the start you are wrong.  There was a diagnoses of extreme cases that included symptoms of  cases exemplifying cognitive incoherence, catatonia, delusion, magical thinking, hallucinations, or schizotypal disorders.  This only applied to extreme cases not all religious people and these ideas were later reformed after further research.  Now the following is all taken from the same article FF is referencing.

"In the early 1980s, literature reviews began summarizing this work, by then consisting of about 200 empirical studies of  various outcomes (e.g. Gartner, Larson, & Allen, 1981; Larson, Pattison, Blazer, Omran, & Kaplan, 1986). The verdict was consistent. According to one authoritative review, “The mental health influence of religious beliefs and practices – particularly when embedded within a long-standing, well-integrated faith tradition – is largely a positive one” (Koenig, 1998b, p. 392)"

"Medical sociologists, health psychologists, and gerontologists have done a more sophisticated job at identifying impacts of religious life on mental health indicators. Studies of dimensions of psychological distress and well-being, many of them large- cale probability surveys, consistently find a protective effect of religious participation (see Levin & Chatters, 1998). Within the gerontological literature, especially, features of institutional religious involvement (e.g. attendance at worship services) and non-institutional involvement (e.g. private prayer, embeddedness in religious support networks) have been associated with positive mental health outcomes and high scores on scales and indices assessing psychosocial constructs such as self-esteem, mastery (self-efficacy), optimism, hope, and dimensions of well-being. This overall finding has been replicated across age cohorts, in both sexes, and regardless of social class, race or ethnicity, religious affiliation, and specific diagnosis or outcome measure (see Levin, 1997). Much of the literature focuses on symptoms of mood disorders, such as depression or anxiety, and many studies have found a health-promoting effect of religion on overall and domain-specific life satisfaction, happiness, and positive affect."

Now not sure why FF would link an article that seems to be promoting religion as a way to prevent mental illness, but I can only assume he didn't read the whole article.

3:02 "Religious delusions in patients admitted to hospital with schizophrenia."
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11990010

You said it yourself and it's something I have been saying since we started these discussions.  People that suffer from pre-existing mental illnesses will see their religous beliefs manifest through their disorders, but like you said, that does not mean religion causes or is mental illness which is the point we are addressing.

4:44 "Frequency and severity of religious delusions in Christian patients with psychosis."
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11472793

You said "that people who are protestant are more likely to suffer from religious delusions"

Now this study you are referring to was conducted on 131 patients in Cincinnati that first off were already diagnosed with separate mental illnesses UNRELATED to their religious beliefs.  The study went on to show that involvement in religious activities did often lead to higher ratings of religious delusions but unclear in this study is how the investigators were able to even distinguish between "“normal” religious activity from religious delusions or other pathological expressions of religious activity."  Again, I want to point out that these studies were done on patients diagnosed already with psychotic disorders, so again no tie between religion causing or being a mental illness.

6:16 "The persuasive language in both of these studies and all the studies you can find out there, is the term religious delusions.  They are viewing these different then other kinds of delusions, so they are saying there are delusions inherent to religion"

No Mike, that's not what they are saying.  These studies are done to see if they can find ties between being religious and how it effects their delusions, not that there are inherent delusions to being religious.  In these studies of patients already diagnosed with psychotic disorders they find that in some cases there may be more frequent cases of delusion. Also to note is that only 39% of patients showed religious delusions, a number less then those who recognized themselves as religious meaning that belief in religion was not guaranteed to garner religious delusions.

6:38 "Religion, spirituality and psychotic disorders"
http://www.scielo.br/scielo.php?pid=S0101-60832007000700013&script=sci_arttext&tlng=en


8:33 "So Clearly it's indicated that religiosity is rampant in america and if we know from the research studies that the more religious a people are the more likely they are to present with serious mental illnesses including religious delusions"

Okay, so you are basing this off the previous two abstracts you have read from, the one thing you are completely wrong about is the fact that as I explained earlier, the study on "Frequency and severity of religious delusions in Christian patients with psychosis" was done by p[patients with preexisting mental disorders, in fact in the article by Koenig it actually mentions this study on page 3.  It is you at this point asserting that the more religious a person is the more likely they are to have mental illness, you have yet to actually bring forth an article that validates this claim.

11:22 "Most scientifically trained psychiatrists and other mental health professionals believe in a scientific, secular worldview."

One of the reasons why Freud has almost completely fallen out of favor with modern academia is for one of the reasons the article listed and you read. "This negative perspective regarding religion, however, was not based on systematic research or careful objective observation. Rather, it was based on the personal opinions and clinical experience of powerful and influential persons within the psychiatric academia, who had little experience with healthy religion."

As covered in the very first article you reviewed and within the article by Koenig, the reason these ideas were changed was because they were not based on any real empirical facts and new studies had shown positive gains from religious beliefs. "These investigators report positive correlation between religious delusions and religious activity in 193 inpatients with schizophrenia. Patients with religious delusions scored significantly higher on self-assessed religiosity and doctrinal orthodoxy than those without religious delusions"

These are the studies being done by the same secular sources.  *Use of religion has been recognized as an actual beneficial tool in aiding those people with mental illness so how do you even think that it is also the cause?*

12:05 "So we had a period of time, once again, where religious delusions were considered a mental illness"

Yeah, and you go on to explain how peer review and a better understanding of religion through real studies illustrated that like homosexuality which was also once classified as a mental illness, better understanding of how the mind works eliminated the labeling of religion as a cause of mental illness.  So again those secular sources disagree with you once they applied real science and not baseless assertions.

12:49 "religious communities have developed negative attitudes toward psychologists and psychiatrists, who are often seen as either unhelpful or evening threatening to deeply held beliefs that are central to their worldviews"

Yeah, I actually probably agree with you on this point.  While I have demonstrated quite clearly in these posts that religion is not a mental illness, but people can still hold misinformed or just plain bad information, this would be an example of that here.

The fallout as described by this mistrust in the psychiatric fields demonstrates why real science should always be done and not just based on personal opinion like Freud.  Note again that these people that did not refer members with severe mental illness, are cases where these people had mental illnesses unrelated to their religion.

15:00  Now this is around the time that I agree with you wholeheartedly.  This stigma that people have against mental illness especially on part by these pastors is disgusting and has lead to people commit unspeakable acts.  This is where your argument should start about why religion is extremely damaging to society.  Again, religion is not a mental illness but the fact that people can hide away from proper treatment of mental illnesses that they may have and be encouraged to do so by their religion is a disgrace.  Another example of why religion is dangerous.  This is why I don't like labeling religion as a mental illness, because honestly, even if you could label them this way, who cares?  It accomplishes nothing.  The fact that these people with mental illnesses refuse treatment because of religious pressure is a real threat.

20:24 "Across the board, religion is a mental illness"

Well you misunderstood this part of the article.  It talks about the difference in diagnosing a psychosis (A symptom of mental illness) with deep settled beliefs (not a mental illness).  As I have explained so many times it is getting tiresome, someone with beliefs based on developmental or social pressures may be misguided, but does not fit the definition of a mental illness.

21:12 "Thus, distinguishing religious beliefs and experiences from those that are psychotic becomes an urgent dilemma for the clinician."

Yup, because again as I stated earlier, a person with beliefs based on bad information, reinforced through their societal pressures, is indistinguishable sometimes with someone with a real mental illness.  I think you are unclear on what the difference between pathological and non-pathological means.

26:00 In conclusion Mike, you have failed to prove religion as a mental illness.  You have taken out of context or misrepresented the data in these articles and while I don't think it was intentional, it is clear that you have a strong bias here.

Religion is a dangerous concept that has negative effects on our society, but you are incorrect as labeling it as a mental illness.  Sure, it might be a blight on our species that will eventually lead to our destruction, but it's not a mental illness.___

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2015-02-11 13:36:21 (5 comments, 6 reshares, 30 +1s)Open 

This is the exact advice I give to young people when they complain about love or lack thereof. Any relationship is most valuable in what it can teach you about yourself rather than what it can confirm. 

This is the exact advice I give to young people when they complain about love or lack thereof. Any relationship is most valuable in what it can teach you about yourself rather than what it can confirm. ___

2015-02-11 11:58:36 (4 comments, 0 reshares, 2 +1s)Open 

If you take a look at the attached Facebook profile you'll see it's a petty standard atheist profile. Except in this case the owner just killed three Muslim students at chapel hill university.

Should we blame his anti theism for the murders? If not why? If this had of been three Christian, Jewish, or atheists dead and the Facebook profile was filled with Islamic content wouldn't we see the words extremist or terrorist invoked almost immediately? 

If you take a look at the attached Facebook profile you'll see it's a petty standard atheist profile. Except in this case the owner just killed three Muslim students at chapel hill university.

Should we blame his anti theism for the murders? If not why? If this had of been three Christian, Jewish, or atheists dead and the Facebook profile was filled with Islamic content wouldn't we see the words extremist or terrorist invoked almost immediately? ___

2015-02-11 11:57:35 (24 comments, 1 reshares, 0 +1s)Open 

If you take a look at the attached Facebook profile you'll see it's a petty standard atheist profile. Except in this case the owner just killed three Muslim students at chapel hill university.

Should we blame his anti theism for the murders? If not why? If this had of been three Christian, Jewish, or atheists dead and the Facebook profile was filled with Islamic content wouldn't we see the words extremist or terrorist invoked almost immediately? 

If you take a look at the attached Facebook profile you'll see it's a petty standard atheist profile. Except in this case the owner just killed three Muslim students at chapel hill university.

Should we blame his anti theism for the murders? If not why? If this had of been three Christian, Jewish, or atheists dead and the Facebook profile was filled with Islamic content wouldn't we see the words extremist or terrorist invoked almost immediately? ___

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2015-02-09 23:16:23 (0 comments, 0 reshares, 1 +1s)Open 

When they can't attack the underlying science, they go after the scientists. Personally.
#globalwarming  

When they can't attack the underlying science, they go after the scientists. Personally.
#globalwarming  ___

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2015-02-09 22:51:08 (1 comments, 0 reshares, 1 +1s)Open 

This is from the comments section on the article. Wanted to share it because it's so well said. Essentially he's pointing out the problem with many criticisms of Islam are that they rely on Islam being one big monolithic definable thing.

In this long comment, I'm focused mainly on the LOGIC and LANGUAGE of “blaming Islam,” rather than events and interpretations. Unlike some Salon readers, I think religionusually deserves blame when violence is committed in some religion's name. I also think the Quran has a lot of wickedness in it, but this doesn't lead me to “blame Islam” like Jeffrey Tayler does. It's not misguided tolerance that keeps me from blaming Islam. It's precision, and the precision problem goes beyond the fact that Muslims simply vary in their beliefs. Here's something Tayler says that bugs me: 

“No doubt, some commentatorscontort them... more »

This is from the comments section on the article. Wanted to share it because it's so well said. Essentially he's pointing out the problem with many criticisms of Islam are that they rely on Islam being one big monolithic definable thing.

In this long comment, I'm focused mainly on the LOGIC and LANGUAGE of “blaming Islam,” rather than events and interpretations. Unlike some Salon readers, I think religionusually deserves blame when violence is committed in some religion's name. I also think the Quran has a lot of wickedness in it, but this doesn't lead me to “blame Islam” like Jeffrey Tayler does. It's not misguided tolerance that keeps me from blaming Islam. It's precision, and the precision problem goes beyond the fact that Muslims simply vary in their beliefs. Here's something Tayler says that bugs me: 

“No doubt, some commentators contort themselves to avoid blaming Islam because they personally know Muslims who would do no harm to anyone. But as regards the Charlie Hebdo massacre, Islam’s innocuous votaries are irrelevant.”

Those “innocuous votaries” are relevant to the question of whether Islam itself is to blame, and this is because their beliefs illustrate the difficulty in defining Islam. After the above quote, Tayler goes on to talk about the dangers of the “Islamic canon,” as though Islam can be defined by the Quran. But, like Christians, Muslims commonly dismiss parts of their holy book while simultaneously defending the book as the ultimate and flawless authority on their religion. I'll call this (contradictory) view the “mixed view.” IF we were to trust only the “book as authority” part of the Muslim mixed view, then we'll find it fair to blame Islam for anything that theQuran can be blamed for. We''ll also say that any “Muslims” who disagree with the Quran about something don't really represent Muslims on that subject. It's a tidy approach, and if anybody doesn't like it, we can just point to a statistic showing how many Muslims agree that the Quran is Islam's ultimate authority (almost all of them). Adult Muslims deserve to be taken at their word about what they claim to believe, right? Actually, no, they don't always deserve that. Here's why:

(1) For many of the world's Muslims who claim that the Quran is Islam's ultimate authority, it wouldn't be safe to say otherwise. So, taking such people “at their word” is like believing a confession made under duress.

(2) In the West, we don't hold Christian claims about their book's authority to the same rigid standard. For example, we don'tsay that somebody isn't a representative of Christianity just because he/she dismisses many “harsh” passages in the Old Testament. Christians typically pretend to believe that the Bible's word is absolute, but we know the “mixed view” prevails here. We define Christianity according to that view, not the pretense of Biblical inerrancy.

If you think about it, the only reason anyone trusts the Quran as the definitive authority on Islam is that this is what Muslims have said that they believe. Thus, the Quran is hardly analternative to trusting Muslim beliefs. So why, when trying to pinpoint what defines Islam, would we acknowledge this belief and ignore other prevalent “Muslim” beliefs that are contrary to the Quran? It must be because we insist that Islam be definable in some way, but why are we ruling out the possibility that it's not? If we ignore this possibility, it would be only for the sake of convenience not truth. For example, Muslims may want the Quran to permanently define Islam so that the religion won't dissolve amid doctrinal uncertainty, and atheists may want the same thing simply so that Islam can be tidily criticized. We should be more concerned with accuracy than convenience.

I honestly think that the prevailing “mixed view” among Muslims makes Islam undefinable. We must know what Islam isbefore we can say “Islam is to blame,” but we don't, so we can't. Again, feelings of “tolerance” don't lead me to this conclusion. I'll criticize the Quran for being wicked, and I'll criticize religion in general for being stupid and dangerous, but criticizing “Islam” requires me to reason sloppily. I feel I owe it to the majority of the world's self-described Muslims not to do that, because they seem to be decent people.

I do disagree with Jeffrey Tayler's approach, but I don't think he's a bigot. In part, I think limitations in our arbitrary concepts and arbitrary language are getting in his way. Itdoes seem reasonable to say that the Quran is permanently linked with Islam. But this doesn't mean that the ideas that constitute Islam are coterminous with those of the Quran. If “Islam” can be said to have a criticism-worthy problem, it's that the official book that its followers cherry-pick ideas from makes bad ideas available to them. It's this availability that Jeffrey Tayler wants to blame an appropriate party for, but there's no word for that party. Blaming the religion is off the mark because a religion is an ideology - composed of ideas - and Islam's defining ideas can't be pinpointed.


Or maybe I'm wrong. I was getting groggy writing all this, so criticisms are welcome.


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2015-02-07 01:10:34 (1 comments, 1 reshares, 4 +1s)Open 

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2015-02-06 03:14:05 (9 comments, 0 reshares, 0 +1s)Open 

I was going to include this in another discussion, but think I want to hear some feedback from a broader audience.

I'm more with the caller that with Matt. Specifically on the idea of how a question can be answered.

Matt uses a gumball analogy. Imagining a jar, does it have an even amount or odd amount? 

Matt argues that if you reject the idea there is an even number of gumballs you are not therefore saying there is an odd number. I don't agree.

If I say, there is not an even number of gumballs, I am implying there is an odd number.

On the other hand if I say, I don't know if there is an even number of gumballs, I am not implying there is an odd number because I have not outright rejected the idea there could be an even number.

While some might say, well, that's just semantics, honestly if thew... more »

I was going to include this in another discussion, but think I want to hear some feedback from a broader audience.

I'm more with the caller that with Matt. Specifically on the idea of how a question can be answered.

Matt uses a gumball analogy. Imagining a jar, does it have an even amount or odd amount? 

Matt argues that if you reject the idea there is an even number of gumballs you are not therefore saying there is an odd number. I don't agree.

If I say, there is not an even number of gumballs, I am implying there is an odd number.

On the other hand if I say, I don't know if there is an even number of gumballs, I am not implying there is an odd number because I have not outright rejected the idea there could be an even number.

While some might say, well, that's just semantics, honestly if the words are available and we are interested in communicating something there is no reason whatsoever to say there is not an even number when we really mean we don't know if there is or is not.

When comparing this to the dichotomy Matt sets our in regards to the question of God, that you can either be a theist or an atheist, the flaws in his thinking become more pronounced. Can a theist simply say they are rejecting the idea there isn't a God and therefore avoid the burden of proof? 

To me any question can be answered in three ways, not just two: yes, no, or I don't know.

A criticism I've always had against American culture specifically is that it seems a good amount of people are stuck thinking that everything is binary. That no matter the question and no matter their expertise or knowledge they must answer it with either yes or no. The must have an opinion. 

And this is exactly the type of thinking I see happening here with +Matt Dillahunty and I think it has a lot to do with the culture he's grown up in. I also think this type of thinking is exactly the type that leads to dogma and blind faith. ___

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2015-02-01 14:19:12 (0 comments, 0 reshares, 3 +1s)Open 

Roald Dahl's Letter To Anti-Vaccination Parents

http://www.ovg.ox.ac.uk/blogs/ojohn/how-dangerous-measles

Olivia, my eldest daughter, caught measles when she was seven years old.

As the illness took its usual course I can remember reading to her often in bed and not feeling particularly alarmed about it. Then one morning, when she was well on the road to recovery, I was sitting on her bed showing her how to fashion little animals out of coloured pipe-cleaners, and when it came to her turn to make one herself, I noticed that her fingers and her mind were not working together and she couldn’t do anything.

“Are you feeling all right?” I asked her.

“I feel all sleepy, ” she said.

In an hour, she was unconscious. In twelve hours she was dead.

I encounter a lot of anti-vaxxer parents in playgroups, homeschool groups,etc.  The... more »

Roald Dahl's Letter To Anti-Vaccination Parents

http://www.ovg.ox.ac.uk/blogs/ojohn/how-dangerous-measles

Olivia, my eldest daughter, caught measles when she was seven years old.

As the illness took its usual course I can remember reading to her often in bed and not feeling particularly alarmed about it. Then one morning, when she was well on the road to recovery, I was sitting on her bed showing her how to fashion little animals out of coloured pipe-cleaners, and when it came to her turn to make one herself, I noticed that her fingers and her mind were not working together and she couldn’t do anything.

“Are you feeling all right?” I asked her.

“I feel all sleepy, ” she said.

In an hour, she was unconscious. In twelve hours she was dead.

I encounter a lot of anti-vaxxer parents in playgroups, homeschool groups, etc.  The ignorance is astounding.  The privilege this generation has to not have seen so many friends and family die off has resulted in the same sorts of blinders that any privilege carries, but in this case it's not just passively harming others but actively.

These diseases can cause lasting harm and kill.  If you won't vaccinate for the good of others, at least smarten up and do it for your own kids to protect them.

#vaccineswork   #vaccinessavelives  

Via +Cindy Brown ___

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2015-01-27 23:38:51 (2 comments, 0 reshares, 4 +1s)Open 

Please spread this around.   We need to stop the anti-vaccine bullshit that people believe!!


http://themetapicture.com/angry-scientist-finds-uneducated-internet-comment-and-delivers-badass-response/

Please spread this around.   We need to stop the anti-vaccine bullshit that people believe!!


http://themetapicture.com/angry-scientist-finds-uneducated-internet-comment-and-delivers-badass-response/___

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2015-01-25 06:18:54 (0 comments, 1 reshares, 1 +1s)Open 

Pass it on to another community if you want to live. (Sorry, i just want to live)

Pass it on to another community if you want to live. (Sorry, i just want to live)___

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2015-01-24 19:17:01 (1 comments, 0 reshares, 1 +1s)Open 

Typical dumb reality show fare. Two people hump inside a box and then we get to hear "experts" talk about their relationship. Porno lite for bored housewife types who get to watch something naughty without feeling too guilty. Reminds me of Fifty Shades of Grey.

For real fun contrast this fairly sterile British and American show to how the Japanese did a Fuck in a Box show: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlGWOBpZObg

I want to see that re--made over here. I'd pay to see a cow wrangling tough guy cover his face with his Stetson as he blows into the hungry maw of a male hooker from San Francisco.  

Typical dumb reality show fare. Two people hump inside a box and then we get to hear "experts" talk about their relationship. Porno lite for bored housewife types who get to watch something naughty without feeling too guilty. Reminds me of Fifty Shades of Grey.

For real fun contrast this fairly sterile British and American show to how the Japanese did a Fuck in a Box show: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlGWOBpZObg

I want to see that re--made over here. I'd pay to see a cow wrangling tough guy cover his face with his Stetson as he blows into the hungry maw of a male hooker from San Francisco.  ___

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2015-01-24 00:11:01 (2 comments, 0 reshares, 2 +1s)Open 

So, it makes me feel a bit old, but this is the first time I've seen this guy in my life.

At first, it's pretty damn funny, but then there is a growing feeling of admiration for the type of determination it takes to finish a marathon with a bad case of the shits. Particularly when you have to be mindful not to slip on it.

And really, even if you haven't shit your pants a single time in your entire adult life, at some point you will. So you really can't help but empathise. 

So, it makes me feel a bit old, but this is the first time I've seen this guy in my life.

At first, it's pretty damn funny, but then there is a growing feeling of admiration for the type of determination it takes to finish a marathon with a bad case of the shits. Particularly when you have to be mindful not to slip on it.

And really, even if you haven't shit your pants a single time in your entire adult life, at some point you will. So you really can't help but empathise. ___

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2015-01-22 13:12:07 (12 comments, 0 reshares, 6 +1s)Open 

When I first read about this story I was absolutely behind the guy. He challenged the practice of Gideon Bible thumpers coming into classes to give a presentation and offer free Bibles. They stopped the practice.

However now I think he's going to far. His complaint seems to be around an after school Christian youth group and the school associating with Habitat for Humanity. He thinks secular humanist orginizations should be given equal time.

That's great! Except there are no secular humanist groups doing much of anything in the country. Moreover I've known plenty of atheists and secular humanists who have worked with habitat with no problem. They don't push Christianity, they build houses.

That's how it tends to be in Canada. Religion is, for a good many people, about as important as heritage. It's a personal family thing that helps define... more »

When I first read about this story I was absolutely behind the guy. He challenged the practice of Gideon Bible thumpers coming into classes to give a presentation and offer free Bibles. They stopped the practice.

However now I think he's going to far. His complaint seems to be around an after school Christian youth group and the school associating with Habitat for Humanity. He thinks secular humanist orginizations should be given equal time.

That's great! Except there are no secular humanist groups doing much of anything in the country. Moreover I've known plenty of atheists and secular humanists who have worked with habitat with no problem. They don't push Christianity, they build houses.

That's how it tends to be in Canada. Religion is, for a good many people, about as important as heritage. It's a personal family thing that helps define identity. ___

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2015-01-22 01:35:56 (1 comments, 0 reshares, 8 +1s)Open 

Nah. America just has entertainment and information media. If it was propaganda it would say so. 

Nah. America just has entertainment and information media. If it was propaganda it would say so. ___

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2015-01-22 00:32:08 (2 comments, 0 reshares, 2 +1s)Open 

I just really like this picture of Steve trying to act excited.

Are you on our email list yet? Sign up to get info about local events, and news in your riding: http://cpcp.cc/gGKhAy___I just really like this picture of Steve trying to act excited.

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2015-01-21 02:02:23 (0 comments, 2 reshares, 6 +1s)Open 

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2015-01-20 13:08:48 (21 comments, 0 reshares, 22 +1s)Open 

This is certainly snowballing into a very big thing. When it comes to their freedoms the French are certainly not the type to back down. It really seems like a turning point this time around and feels like we are putting out foot down.

#jesuischarlie

This is certainly snowballing into a very big thing. When it comes to their freedoms the French are certainly not the type to back down. It really seems like a turning point this time around and feels like we are putting out foot down.

#jesuischarlie___

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2015-01-20 13:07:49 (2 comments, 1 reshares, 3 +1s)Open 

This is certainly snowballing into a very big thing. When it comes to their freedoms the French are certainly not the type to back down. It really seems like a turning point this time around and feels like we are putting out foot down.

#jesuischarlie

This is certainly snowballing into a very big thing. When it comes to their freedoms the French are certainly not the type to back down. It really seems like a turning point this time around and feels like we are putting out foot down.

#jesuischarlie___

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2015-01-19 12:58:25 (21 comments, 1 reshares, 5 +1s)Open 

Interesting article that brings up many points I agree with. Of particular interest is his mention of the clash of civilisations narrative. That's something I've personally identified as being at the core of the new atheist belief system.

It's also something I think will continue to cause misery for both the East and the West with the possibility of causing world war. Ultimately it demands one side dominates the other and I think that won't be acceptable to any parties.

I'd also say communities such as this represent the alternative.

Needless to say this article should ruffle some feathers.

But I like what he's saying and I think it's pretty much spot on. ___Interesting article that brings up many points I agree with. Of particular interest is his mention of the clash of civilisations narrative. That's something I've personally identified as being at the core of the new atheist belief system.

It's also something I think will continue to cause misery for both the East and the West with the possibility of causing world war. Ultimately it demands one side dominates the other and I think that won't be acceptable to any parties.

I'd also say communities such as this represent the alternative.

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2015-01-19 04:18:25 (24 comments, 4 reshares, 6 +1s)Open 

Needless to say this article should ruffle some feathers.

But I like what he's saying and I think it's pretty much spot on. 

Needless to say this article should ruffle some feathers.

But I like what he's saying and I think it's pretty much spot on. ___

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2015-01-18 15:07:14 (0 comments, 0 reshares, 3 +1s)Open 

How many people have learned about Jesus from this perspective? Does it fit with what you've been taught? And if not what do you think? 

How many people have learned about Jesus from this perspective? Does it fit with what you've been taught? And if not what do you think? ___

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2015-01-18 14:31:16 (10 comments, 2 reshares, 7 +1s)Open 

With Islam dominating the news yet again I keep running into people who, honestly, have a very superficial understanding of Islam. They see it as the thing cable news networks like Fox or CNN try to make it out to be. A big monolithic ideology that every last person who is a Muslim adheres to and those who say they don't are lying.

That's a really stupid way to think. It's so stupid it can be hard to get people to understand why it's so stupid. When you try it usually goes back to how some person, many times a comedian or politician or professional public speaker, said such and such so, like, they're totally right because the person they were talking to was an idiot.

Which makes me ask: why should I believe a public speaker or pundit or comedian about the history of Islam over John Green on Crash Course?

I know history isn't filled with hard facts... more »

With Islam dominating the news yet again I keep running into people who, honestly, have a very superficial understanding of Islam. They see it as the thing cable news networks like Fox or CNN try to make it out to be. A big monolithic ideology that every last person who is a Muslim adheres to and those who say they don't are lying.

That's a really stupid way to think. It's so stupid it can be hard to get people to understand why it's so stupid. When you try it usually goes back to how some person, many times a comedian or politician or professional public speaker, said such and such so, like, they're totally right because the person they were talking to was an idiot.

Which makes me ask: why should I believe a public speaker or pundit or comedian about the history of Islam over John Green on Crash Course?

I know history isn't filled with hard facts like science or binary like computer studies. There is some room for interpretation.

But it isn't so elastic as people think. There are reasonable limits to what could logically be said about history and what couldn't. It's the same with literature. It's up to you what a book means to you, but there is a point where an interpretation becomes stupidity.

Maybe part of the problem is on a daily basis we see people saying really stupid things about current affairs in television which are then talked about as if they are intelligent thoughts. Maybe it's a little bit of conditioning to think this way so the country keeps running.

Whatever it is I think people identifying as atheists and genuinely interested in being rational people who use evidence to form their belief should learn not to think like that.

So watch the video. Learn a bit about history from the history books instead of cable news.

And make sure to note the legitimacy of the virgin meme. How often have you heard that one repeated? (Enjoy some Sunday morning cognitive dissonance too!) ___

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2015-01-18 14:30:36 (0 comments, 1 reshares, 1 +1s)Open 

With Islam dominating the news yet again I keep running into people who, honestly, have a very superficial understanding of Islam. They see it as the thing cable news networks like Fox or CNN try to make it out to be. A big monolithic ideology that every last person who is a Muslim adheres to and those who say they don't are lying.

That's a really stupid way to think. It's so stupid it can be hard to get people to understand why it's so stupid. When you try it usually goes back to how some person, many times a comedian or politician or professional public speaker, said such and such so, like, they're totally right because the person they were talking to was an idiot.

Which makes me ask: why should I believe a public speaker or pundit or comedian about the history of Islam over John Green on Crash Course?

I know history isn't filled with hard facts... more »

With Islam dominating the news yet again I keep running into people who, honestly, have a very superficial understanding of Islam. They see it as the thing cable news networks like Fox or CNN try to make it out to be. A big monolithic ideology that every last person who is a Muslim adheres to and those who say they don't are lying.

That's a really stupid way to think. It's so stupid it can be hard to get people to understand why it's so stupid. When you try it usually goes back to how some person, many times a comedian or politician or professional public speaker, said such and such so, like, they're totally right because the person they were talking to was an idiot.

Which makes me ask: why should I believe a public speaker or pundit or comedian about the history of Islam over John Green on Crash Course?

I know history isn't filled with hard facts like science or binary like computer studies. There is some room for interpretation.

But it isn't so elastic as people think. There are reasonable limits to what could logically be said about history and what couldn't. It's the same with literature. It's up to you what a book means to you, but there is a point where an interpretation becomes stupidity.

Maybe part of the problem is on a daily basis we see people saying really stupid things about current affairs in television which are then talked about as if they are intelligent thoughts. Maybe it's a little bit of conditioning to think this way so the country keeps running.

Whatever it is I think people identifying as atheists and genuinely interested in being rational people who use evidence to form their belief should learn not to think like that.

So watch the video. Learn a bit about history from the history books instead of cable news.

And make sure to note the legitimacy of the virgin meme. How often have you heard that one repeated? (Enjoy some Sunday morning cognitive dissonance too!) ___

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2015-01-18 14:22:14 (15 comments, 4 reshares, 9 +1s)Open 

With Islam dominating the news yet again I keep running into people who, honestly, have a very superficial understanding of Islam. They see it as the thing cable news networks like Fox or CNN try to make it out to be. A big monolithic ideology that every last person who is a Muslim adheres to and those who say they don't are lying.

That's a really stupid way to think. It's so stupid it can be hard to get people to understand why it's so stupid. When you try it usually goes back to how some person, many times a comedian or politician or professional public speaker, said such and such so, like, they're totally right because the person they were talking to was an idiot.

Which makes me ask: why should I believe a public speaker or pundit or comedian about the history of Islam over John Green on Crash Course?

I know history isn't filled with hard facts... more »

With Islam dominating the news yet again I keep running into people who, honestly, have a very superficial understanding of Islam. They see it as the thing cable news networks like Fox or CNN try to make it out to be. A big monolithic ideology that every last person who is a Muslim adheres to and those who say they don't are lying.

That's a really stupid way to think. It's so stupid it can be hard to get people to understand why it's so stupid. When you try it usually goes back to how some person, many times a comedian or politician or professional public speaker, said such and such so, like, they're totally right because the person they were talking to was an idiot.

Which makes me ask: why should I believe a public speaker or pundit or comedian about the history of Islam over John Green on Crash Course?

I know history isn't filled with hard facts like science or binary like computer studies. There is some room for interpretation.

But it isn't so elastic as people think. There are reasonable limits to what could logically be said about history and what couldn't. It's the same with literature. It's up to you what a book means to you, but there is a point where an interpretation becomes stupidity.

Maybe part of the problem is on a daily basis we see people saying really stupid things about current affairs in television which are then talked about as if they are intelligent thoughts. Maybe it's a little bit of conditioning to think this way so the country keeps running.

Whatever it is I think people identifying as atheists and genuinely interested in being rational people who use evidence to form their belief should learn not to think like that.

So watch the video. Learn a bit about history from the history books instead of cable news.

And make sure to note the legitimacy of the virgin meme. How often have you heard that one repeated? (Enjoy some Sunday morning cognitive dissonance too!) ___

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2015-01-11 04:49:12 (0 comments, 1 reshares, 4 +1s)Open 

How many can they kill? And when is the next Draw Muhammad Day?

#JeSuisCharlie #Islam #Terrorism

How many can they kill? And when is the next Draw Muhammad Day?

#JeSuisCharlie #Islam #Terrorism___

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2015-01-10 19:47:17 (1 comments, 1 reshares, 2 +1s)Open 

Good old #billcosby  came to our little Center in the Square the other day. In protest people camped outside, but more importantly they held the event captured below. You could even drop your tickets from Bill's show in a bucket for free entry.

This is a quality I love about my region and my country. Instead of focusing on the negative and defining ourselves by what we are not, we focus on what we stand for and do things to nourish those values.

New post: Voices Carry.___Good old #billcosby  came to our little Center in the Square the other day. In protest people camped outside, but more importantly they held the event captured below. You could even drop your tickets from Bill's show in a bucket for free entry.

This is a quality I love about my region and my country. Instead of focusing on the negative and defining ourselves by what we are not, we focus on what we stand for and do things to nourish those values.

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2015-01-09 17:21:36 (1 comments, 1 reshares, 3 +1s)Open 

Editor's Note: Many Americans view their country and its soldiers as the "good guys" spreading "democracy" and "liberty" around the world. When the United States inflicts unnecessary death and destruction, it's viewed as a mistake or an aberration.

In the following article, Peter Dale Scott and Robert Parry examine the long history of these acts of brutality, a record that suggests they are neither a "mistake" nor an "aberration" but rather conscious counterinsurgency doctrine on the "dark side."

It's Not All About Democracy: The Very Dark Side of American History

___Editor's Note: Many Americans view their country and its soldiers as the "good guys" spreading "democracy" and "liberty" around the world. When the United States inflicts unnecessary death and destruction, it's viewed as a mistake or an aberration.

In the following article, Peter Dale Scott and Robert Parry examine the long history of these acts of brutality, a record that suggests they are neither a "mistake" nor an "aberration" but rather conscious counterinsurgency doctrine on the "dark side."

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2015-01-09 15:54:25 (5 comments, 0 reshares, 2 +1s)Open 

Love this. Pussy nation. So very adult.

American fascism at its finest. Real men versus pussy girlie fag men. Made religion free so American atheists can join in the fun of being macho men like the Christians.

___Love this. Pussy nation. So very adult.

American fascism at its finest. Real men versus pussy girlie fag men. Made religion free so American atheists can join in the fun of being macho men like the Christians.

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2015-01-09 15:34:54 (6 comments, 0 reshares, 1 +1s)Open 

Great video. It captures exactly the worry I have and the reason I'm so quick to criticise how some people talk about Islam.

The proper definition of islamaphobia is resentment and fear toward the Muslim population. It was coined to describe a specific type of xenophobia. What he's talking about in this video is essentially the increase of islamaphobia.

This needs to be said because in American, and by extension all Western, popular media the right has taken pains to associate islamaphobia with racism and frame it as something someone does. As a verb. This just isn't a useful way to think of it all and it does a good job of shutting down reasonable conversation about an extremely important subject. One that atheists play a bigger role in them they may appreciate.

We have to understand that radicalization isn't a magic thing that happens when someone reads the Quran.... more »

FWIW: ~ "Motives behind the Charlie Hebdo attack in Paris" ~ [Caspian Report] :: [Excerpt:] Yesterday morning, three masked gunmen stormed the headquarters of the French satire magazine Charlie Hebdo. The attackers forced one of the cartoonists to open the door with a security code. And then headed straight towards the paper’s editor, Stephane Charbonnier better known as Charb, who was in an editorial staff meeting. In the encounter the gunmen killed Charb, his bodyguard and many more journalists. Minutes later the attackers left the building and shot a police officer and escaped with a vehicle. Ten journalists and two police officers were killed, it was the deadliest terrorist attack on French soil in fifty years. Representatives of ISIS quickly praised the massacre as an act of revenge for the magazine’s insults against Islam and the Prophet Muhammed. But a closer look at the long term implications reveals a more complex and a profound motive that is meant to shake Europe and radicalize European Muslims. [More at the link.] ::  ___Great video. It captures exactly the worry I have and the reason I'm so quick to criticise how some people talk about Islam.

The proper definition of islamaphobia is resentment and fear toward the Muslim population. It was coined to describe a specific type of xenophobia. What he's talking about in this video is essentially the increase of islamaphobia.

This needs to be said because in American, and by extension all Western, popular media the right has taken pains to associate islamaphobia with racism and frame it as something someone does. As a verb. This just isn't a useful way to think of it all and it does a good job of shutting down reasonable conversation about an extremely important subject. One that atheists play a bigger role in them they may appreciate.

We have to understand that radicalization isn't a magic thing that happens when someone reads the Quran. It's a process that happens when a human animal is isolated from their larger social group. It can happen in schools, on families, and on societies.

Yet, how do we talk about this, an idea backed by solid evidence, when people would rather hear rhetoric about how it's just the religion, how it's just what those people are like, and think people who say otherwise are pussies, apologists, or fearful fools. 

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2015-01-09 15:34:28 (9 comments, 0 reshares, 1 +1s)Open 

Interesting video that does a good job of explaining one of my main concerns around how people have been reacting in the wake of the attack in Paris. And more broadly about the rhetoric coming from many notable atheist.

FWIW: ~ "Motives behind the Charlie Hebdo attack in Paris" ~ [Caspian Report] :: [Excerpt:] Yesterday morning, three masked gunmen stormed the headquarters of the French satire magazine Charlie Hebdo. The attackers forced one of the cartoonists to open the door with a security code. And then headed straight towards the paper’s editor, Stephane Charbonnier better known as Charb, who was in an editorial staff meeting. In the encounter the gunmen killed Charb, his bodyguard and many more journalists. Minutes later the attackers left the building and shot a police officer and escaped with a vehicle. Ten journalists and two police officers were killed, it was the deadliest terrorist attack on French soil in fifty years. Representatives of ISIS quickly praised the massacre as an act of revenge for the magazine’s insults against Islam and the Prophet Muhammed. But a closer look at the long term implications reveals a more complex and a profound motive that is meant to shake Europe and radicalize European Muslims. [More at the link.] ::  ___Interesting video that does a good job of explaining one of my main concerns around how people have been reacting in the wake of the attack in Paris. And more broadly about the rhetoric coming from many notable atheist.

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2015-01-09 13:06:20 (0 comments, 1 reshares, 2 +1s)Open 

Dan's Morning Poop

This one got me thinking with the recent shooting in Paris and some of the responses I've seen to it. The poop:

I think celebrities of any sort need to realise the authority they wield even if they haven't asked for it. The people, the plebes, engage with them in a way I can't help but comparing to Catholic saints or Greek gods. They are living ideals to pursue.

When it comes to scientists specifically, this can be a good thing, however only if they spend their time stressing what makes scientists so noble: their doubt and curiosity.

This isn't quite the case today with many of them. Dawkins springs to mind immediately as he is likely the most visible and greatest example of scientists pontificating beyond their sphere of expertise.

Krauss does it too. I've seen lectures where he explains the universe can spring from... more »

+Lawrence Krauss writes about scientists as celebrities. He considers five examples: Einstein, Feynman, Sagan, Hawking, and Tyson; as well as his own experience. Krauss thinks that although public outreach is not necessary for all scientists, and maybe even a bad idea for some, it is important overall. In particular, he seems to suggests that celebrity scientists should use their platform to advocate for social issues and not just popularize science.

I am worried on agreeing with Krauss, because it is too easy for scientists to think they have expertise in areas where they don't and for others to believe them. Here, we should learn from Feyenman, about whom Krauss writes:

"After winning the Nobel Prize, [Feynman] discovered that people, particularly Army generals, sought his advice on many issues, and after beginning to dispense it freely he suddenly realized he was pontificating on issues that he really knew very little about. As a result, he reined himself in."

However, this worry is bittersweet, because I tend to agree with many celebrity scientists on social issues, and so want them to advocate those issues. Even if they are not (the best) qualified to do so.___Dan's Morning Poop

This one got me thinking with the recent shooting in Paris and some of the responses I've seen to it. The poop:

I think celebrities of any sort need to realise the authority they wield even if they haven't asked for it. The people, the plebes, engage with them in a way I can't help but comparing to Catholic saints or Greek gods. They are living ideals to pursue.

When it comes to scientists specifically, this can be a good thing, however only if they spend their time stressing what makes scientists so noble: their doubt and curiosity.

This isn't quite the case today with many of them. Dawkins springs to mind immediately as he is likely the most visible and greatest example of scientists pontificating beyond their sphere of expertise.

Krauss does it too. I've seen lectures where he explains the universe can spring from nothing, yet instead of leaving this to stew in our minds, needs to point out this means war can live without a God, and goes on to say how liberating and rational it is to do so.

I agree, but, that's my opinion. As the God question is for everyone on the planet. Krauss and Dawkins don't talk about it as an opinion, even if they always have a footnote ready to say it's just a matter of probability and so on, instead making it seem to be a natural conclusion from science.

This isn't good for reasons well understood by Darwin and his bulldog. If the public think science and atheism are bedfellows it will create hostility and make the work of educating them impossible.

Additionally these scientists tend to be ignorant of the practical role of philosophy working along side science. Science will tell us what is, while philosophy will help us understand what that means for us. They think this can be handled by science alone, however it really can't, because jamming a person's head with facts about science isn't quite enough to ensure a good and rational person.

I'll wrap this up with one last thought that has to do with an recent event many of the people who admire Krauss and Dawkins and Tyson have been affected by: the Paris shooting.

I've seen more than a few people calling for a response that includes measures as extreme as concentration camps followed by a final solution. And they feel this is entirely justified because science is clear on the God issue.

I know, big deal, what's a few nutty atheists right? The danger here is our societies are becoming ripe for wily demagogues to draw on this hatred and fear. Such people, willing to lie an manipulate the people instead of govern them, will never take us in a good direction. Ever. 

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2015-01-08 21:35:08 (0 comments, 0 reshares, 2 +1s)Open 

Big Media is spreading lies about potential penalties for downloaders.

Big Media is spreading lies about potential penalties for downloaders.___

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2015-01-08 16:43:19 (1 comments, 0 reshares, 3 +1s)Open 

Sorry for the blur. My son was so worried about losing his new buttons he insisted on taping them to his bag.

Gotta say. A feel a little proud and kind of cool having a son who gets really excited about showing his friends his Caesar and Napoleon buttons. It's exciting raising a kid in a culture that, really, is just emerging and isn't specific to any country. 

Sorry for the blur. My son was so worried about losing his new buttons he insisted on taping them to his bag.

Gotta say. A feel a little proud and kind of cool having a son who gets really excited about showing his friends his Caesar and Napoleon buttons. It's exciting raising a kid in a culture that, really, is just emerging and isn't specific to any country. ___

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2015-01-07 20:35:36 (2 comments, 0 reshares, 16 +1s)Open 

We had ordered my son some buttons and a poster from one of his favourite YouTube series, Crash Course, for Christmas that just arrived today.

Was delighted to see the inclusion of both the flying spaghetti monster and Yoda in "heaven" with Jesus and Buddha. Was a nice opportunity to teach my ten and seven year olds about the FSM and, most importantly, not to take the religion thing too seriously. 

We had ordered my son some buttons and a poster from one of his favourite YouTube series, Crash Course, for Christmas that just arrived today.

Was delighted to see the inclusion of both the flying spaghetti monster and Yoda in "heaven" with Jesus and Buddha. Was a nice opportunity to teach my ten and seven year olds about the FSM and, most importantly, not to take the religion thing too seriously. ___

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2015-01-05 14:33:21 (0 comments, 0 reshares, 1 +1s)Open 

My brother in law was thinking of picking up and moving out west. I've been trying to dissuade him ever since I first heard oil prices were dropping. This article should push the idea out hopefully.

Now, what I'm really wondering is what does this mean politically in Canada, and will it finally sour Harper in the minds of the middle class? Will they see his heavy investment in the oil sands was foolish?

Doubtful. The conservatives are surely scrapping together some type of post oil sands strategy to keep the votes coming. My guess is it will have to have something to do with Islam, ISIS, and Israel. The three pillars of today's conservative rhetoric.

I also have a feeling they'll be embracing the fight against climate change. With even the big money families selling off oil reserves it's clear the establishment has decided it's time to give up the... more »

My brother in law was thinking of picking up and moving out west. I've been trying to dissuade him ever since I first heard oil prices were dropping. This article should push the idea out hopefully.

Now, what I'm really wondering is what does this mean politically in Canada, and will it finally sour Harper in the minds of the middle class? Will they see his heavy investment in the oil sands was foolish?

Doubtful. The conservatives are surely scrapping together some type of post oil sands strategy to keep the votes coming. My guess is it will have to have something to do with Islam, ISIS, and Israel. The three pillars of today's conservative rhetoric.

I also have a feeling they'll be embracing the fight against climate change. With even the big money families selling off oil reserves it's clear the establishment has decided it's time to give up the oil, go green, and start building on the moon and Mars because they're quite aware they've fucked up pretty bad this time. ___

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2015-01-01 20:37:35 (0 comments, 0 reshares, 3 +1s)Open 

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2015-01-01 00:41:12 (1 comments, 1 reshares, 3 +1s)Open 

A very intetesting look at the Middle East through the eyes of a Western atheist. Her perspective in this article brings up many good points about trying to understand the culture.

#atheism
#MiddleEast
#Islam
#religion

A very intetesting look at the Middle East through the eyes of a Western atheist. Her perspective in this article brings up many good points about trying to understand the culture.

#atheism
#MiddleEast
#Islam
#religion___

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2014-12-30 19:51:25 (6 comments, 1 reshares, 9 +1s)Open 

And what should one do to stop this terrible crime of Americans no longer being able to play with guns? Vote for a party that will, in addition to making sure you can still spend lots of money on weapons of death to keep the gun lobby that helps find them happy, also focus their policy on war, power, and wealth?

I'm sorry, but like Jesus would I have to point out this cultural fetish with guns and worship of a man-made Constitution as if it was divine is downright hypocritical. There are countries all over the world with various gun control policies that show less murder and still have thriving Christian communities. There is no genocide going on in Canada or England.

I also have to say the very notion of armed resistance is not only absurd considering the sophistication of the American military you would be resisting against, it's also hypocritical coming from a Christian who... more »

EVERY   EVERY   EVERY  

#2ndamendment #tyranny #gunssavelives  ___And what should one do to stop this terrible crime of Americans no longer being able to play with guns? Vote for a party that will, in addition to making sure you can still spend lots of money on weapons of death to keep the gun lobby that helps find them happy, also focus their policy on war, power, and wealth?

I'm sorry, but like Jesus would I have to point out this cultural fetish with guns and worship of a man-made Constitution as if it was divine is downright hypocritical. There are countries all over the world with various gun control policies that show less murder and still have thriving Christian communities. There is no genocide going on in Canada or England.

I also have to say the very notion of armed resistance is not only absurd considering the sophistication of the American military you would be resisting against, it's also hypocritical coming from a Christian who follows a man that clearly said in these sorts of situations you turn the other cheek, and stand strong. Not pick up a sword and get to the killing.

Additionally, I want to point out that while governments may have killed lots of people, they also fought to stop people from being killed. In fact governments are the only actors in most wars really. Blaming it on government is just right wing political bullshit meant to convince people the EPA is bad and profit should come before people. It's about money and you know what Jesus thinks about that. Or you should. 

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2014-12-30 18:05:34 (2 comments, 0 reshares, 1 +1s)Open 

Dan's Morning Poop

Today was a long one. It's a reaction to an article by +Jerry Coyne about the first journalist to return from time with ISIS. Might be a bit overly ranty, but I've been annoyed since the torture report was released about anything playing into the American narrative.



I stumbled on an article on Why Evolution is True giving commentary on this article with the headline:
Anti-Western German journalist embeds himself with ISIS, discovers that it really is about religion.

http://whyevolutionistrue.wordpress.com/2014/12/28/anti-western-german-journalist-embeds-himself-with-isis-discovers-that-it-really-is-about-religion/

This is actually a pretty big deal. This is the first Western journalist to be given any sort of access to ISIS and live. So it would be very interesting to hear he'd come to the conclusion... more »

Dan's Morning Poop

Today was a long one. It's a reaction to an article by +Jerry Coyne about the first journalist to return from time with ISIS. Might be a bit overly ranty, but I've been annoyed since the torture report was released about anything playing into the American narrative.



I stumbled on an article on Why Evolution is True giving commentary on this article with the headline:
Anti-Western German journalist embeds himself with ISIS, discovers that it really is about religion.

http://whyevolutionistrue.wordpress.com/2014/12/28/anti-western-german-journalist-embeds-himself-with-isis-discovers-that-it-really-is-about-religion/

This is actually a pretty big deal. This is the first Western journalist to be given any sort of access to ISIS and live. So it would be very interesting to hear he'd come to the conclusion it's about the religion. There would be a certain weight of authority behind it.

Except that isn't the conclusion he came to at all.

First let's establish who the journalist is and what type of credentials he has to say something about the situation.

Here's his Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J%C3%BCrgen_Todenh%C3%B6fer

In the article he gives his reason for doing this and some background on his experience:
"I didn't go on this difficult journey, just because Pope Francis recently called for us to talk to IS," he said in an earlier post. "[I went] because after almost 50 years of experience I have always spoken with all sides. In Syria - where I was sharply criticised by some armchair commentators - I spoke with President Assad, but also with Al [Qaeda] and the FSA. I was in Afghanistan several times with President Karsai and with leaders of the Taliban. And during the Iraq war I was with the Shiite Government of Iraq and the [opposition] Sunni resistance."

To me that type of experience lends a great deal of credibility. It also shows a willingness to approach the situation as a legitimate journalist and not a public relations person. 

Of course, as is often the case, this puts his politics on the left because people interested in truth tend to have ethical problems with politicians that overtly lie and deceive to achieve their political goals. However it's important to understand it isn't a position that is synonymous with being an American Liberal.

But let's get back to Jerry's article. There are quite a few cases of what I see as American and New Atheist bias. We'll start with the title.

From Jerry:

And what story did he get? Well, he underscores what many of us already think: ISIS is a severe danger to the Middle East, possibly the tinder that could start a devastating conflagration.  But, as per his politics, Todenhöfer blames it on George W. Bush’s invasion of Iraq:

On his return, [Todenhöfer] issued a stark warning. “From my point of view this is the biggest threat to world peace since the cold war,” he wrote in a detailed Facebook post. “We now pay the price for the inconceivable folly of George W Bush’s attack on Iraq. The West has no concept of the threat it faces.”
. . . In a separate post, he called the terror group “a child of George W. Bush’s illegal Iraq war.. [bombings] always are terrorist-breeding programs in the Middle East.” 

Yes, Bush made a mistake, and therefore we must forever refrain from all bombing, even as ISIS massacres thousands of innocent civilians who have never lifted a finger against Muslims. As ISIS besieged the Yazidis, forcing them into a small, starving enclave, our best strategy would be to do nothing, for bombing would simply breed more terrorists. This is a recipe for capitulating to evil. 

First problem is the false dichotomy that either we bomb or we do nothing. This is repeated over and over again in American media when it comes to nearly ever foe America faces. There are all sorts of other ideas around how to deal with this situation from very intelligent, experienced, and wise people that is brushed aside in favor of adopting the American narrative. One which Jerry is showing he believes in despite the lack of evidence that any solution coming from the American political elite does anything except aggravate situations.

As Jurgen, who has actually spent time in warzones, pointed out but Jerry failed to mention: 

And Todenhöfer rejected any notion of Western military intervention helping to defeat IS. "The city of Mosul [in Iraq], with a population of three million, for example, is controlled by IS with about 5,000 fighters. To crush them with bombs means reducing all of Mosul to rubble and killing tens of thousands of civilians."

This is exactly what will happen and is exactly what did happen during the Shock and Awe campaign when America first invaded. Jerry is not accepting the reality of what bombing ISIS actually means, instead he's returning to the American narrative, which never mentions the death of civilians as much more than collateral damage. He's demanding that either you are for the American solution or you are capitulating to evil. He is saying: you are not one of us.

Jerry continues to pick apart Jurgen:

One might conclude from Todenhöfer’s words that ISIS is simply reacting to colonialist incursions by the West. But his further reportage shows that he is either ill-informed about ISIS’s motives or that ISIS itself is behaving irrationally if its actions are merely a reaction to Western invasion.

It's not merely a reaction to Western invasion. The governments of Syria and Iraq have basically collapsed. There is no rule of law. 

And when there was, it wasn't a very good rule, as Jurgen points out:

From his encounters, he found many Sunni residents "unopposed to the new State... because they prefer it to the previous prevailing discrimination and oppression by the [former Iraqi prime minister] Maliki regime in Baghdad".

There was an article I remember from shortly after the invasion by a reporter on the ground in Baghdad. He talked about the Shia death squads that would come in the night to kidnap Sunni families and execute them. It was fashionable to use power drills on the eyes and foreheads.

I have to wonder if Jerry is considering this when he's talking about ISIS, Iraq, and Syria or if he's building his belief on partial evidence given by the people invading the country and creating the mess in the first place. I know for certain American media only talks about Iraq when the Muslims bomb the people or Western military. We don't hear about the actions and mayhem being perpetuated by the democratic government we are supposed to view as good and noble.

At least not until that government is disposed and we can pretend we had no idea.

Jerry continues to lead us toward the conclusion it's about religion:

For what he found was genuine jihad: a crusade to spread the “true” version of Islam, if necessary by exterminating anyone—even Muslims—who don’t share ISIS’s brand of faith:

There is a term in Islam called Ijtihad that I think anyone wanting to seriously comment on ISIS and Islam should get familiar with. It's defined on Wikipedia as:


1. 
Ijtihad (Arabic: اجتهاد‎ ijtihād, "diligence") is an Islamic legal term that means "independent reasoning" or "the utmost effort an individual can put forth in an activity."


Essentially it's the process of using independent reasoning in on the Quran to establish meaning. It's also something traditionally limited to a mujtahid.

Not just anyone could be a mujtahid. You had to have certain qualifications which could be compared in Western society to a professional career in academia or law. They recognized that not all opinions were valid, and in religious matters in particular, you needed a well rounded and well educated individual to understand a book as mutable as the Quran.

However, around the year 900, the "gates of ijtihad" were shut, and mujtahid were restricted to giving rulings based on already established Islamic law, instead of interpreting directly from the Quran. Essentially, in 900 they established dogma for good, and threw away the key. Which worked fine until we reached modernity.

Modernity has forced change on all our societies. We've all had to challenge our old ways of thinking and doing. In the Islamic world that has lead to calls to re-open the gates of ijtihad and allow Islam to advance and evolve to something more palatable to the modern age. These people are often called progressive Muslims. 

They also tend to be working within existing institutions to affect change. As most atheists should be able to appreciate, doing this can be very slow going, as religions don't like to change. A quick look at the abortion and gay marriage debates in the Western world should confirm this.

Other forces are reacting in an opposite manner. They want ijtihad opened to make things more conservative and more political. Wahhabism is an example of this and many Muslims are against it. They see it as trying to hijack Islam for political purposes that run contrary to Islam and have more to do with business than God.

ISIS is yet another example of people wanting to open the gates of ijtihad. Except in their version, a version considered extreme by 99% of Muslims, they are adding a decidedly totalitarian element. They have concluded that if the entire world could be populated by Muslims under a single government there wouldn't be any war or suffering.

It's an absolutely naive ideal, however it's attractive, adventurous, and in a place like Iraq or Syria it's far more attractive than being ruled and exploited by corrupt regimes.  


The Islamic State, Todenhöfer said, have plans for mass genocide, and the deaths of all atheists, polytheists and religions that are not “people of the book” or Muslims who do not subscribe to their brand of Islam.
“The IS want to kill… all non-believers and apostates and enslave their women and children. All Shiites, Yazidi, Hindus, atheists and polytheists should be killed,” Todenhöfer wrote. “Hundreds of millions of people are to be eliminated in the course of this religious ‘cleansing’.
“All moderate Muslims who promote democracy, should be killed. Because, from the IS perspective, they promote human laws over the laws of God. This also applies to – after a successful conquest – the democratically-minded Muslims in the Western world.
“The only chance of this ‘infidels’, to escape the death, is voluntary repentance and voluntary conversion to ‘True Islam’. IS is supposedly the only representative of this. And only before their countries have been conquered.

Did Hindus or the Yazidi invade Iraq or colonize the Middle East for oil? And what’s ISIS’s beef with the Shiites? How could it be anything other than religion, since Shiites and the Sunnis are both Muslim, share ethnicity and geographic origin, but differ profoundly in who they see as the true inheritors of Muhammad’s message?

Here Jerry is failing to realize the point of ISIS. They are establishing a totalitarian state. This requires total compliance with the state on all matters. Failure to comply means death. There is no room for personal opinion. Jurgen explains this in the text right after what Jerry quoted above:

"Jews and Christians, as 'people of the book', are tolerated, but must pay a fixed protection tax of several hundred dollars per year."
Todenhöfer added that he "shouldn't need to emphasise that there was no agreement between me and IS on any of these points." But Islamic State is currently operating as a functioning totalitarian state, Todenhöfer said, "even if much of it does not meet our Western standards, and certainly not my standards".
You can look at any totalitarian state now or in history and see control of thought is essential to maintaining power. So is the execution of anyone not completely committed to the party, nation, or caliph. 

And remember, Todenhöfer tends to see the whole thing as a reaction to Bush’s belligerence. Once again we see someone forced to defend an increasingly thin narrative in spite of the facts. 

We do see someone trying to defend an increasingly thin narrative in spite of the facts, except it isn't Jurgen, it's Jerry. 

When you place the blame primarily on religion, you are also taking the blame away from other influences. Mainly the ones we are culpable in creating.

To continue to deny the profoundly negative affect Western foreign policy in the Middle East has had in creating an environment prime for a state like ISIS to develop is as faith based and idiotic as the continued denial of evolution.

And when people see through this bullshit narrative that America can do no evil and everything ISIS does is a religious motivated act of insanity against a innocent and good nation like America they look for answers. Answers they find from groups like ISIS who are willing to point out the obvious immorality of the situation. That one bit of honestly opens the person up for a bucket full of lies.

Jerry adds:

Todenhöfer’s own words convict ISIS of waging a war motivated largely by religious beliefs.

No. Jerry's mind convicts ISIS of waging a war motivated largely by religious beliefs because Jerry is an atheist and an American. What would Jerry do if this wasn't a case of religion being the cause? Suddenly he would be living in and participating in a society that has perpetuated a good many atrocities for no good reason at all. If he didn't have these narratives about Islam being a mind virus of evil his world wouldn't make sense.

Nor would his own world view seem so special or so much more advanced. He wouldn't be able to chuckle and smile knowing he, as a profoundly rational and educated atheist, could never descend into such acts of barbarity, as he is free from any sort of religion that would allow him to excuse or engage in immoral cruelty.

Well that's it. Enough ranting and rambling.

I just have to say as of late, since the release of the torture report, my patience for hearing the same old excuses for America has worn thin. They've lied about just about everything at just about every step along the way and I've had enough of seeing otherwise intelligent people repeating the narratives of a state that continually lies. Until America and the West get out of the Middle East, except to work with the people there as equals to create good states and good relationships that benefit the people instead of just their own nations, they can stop going on about how it's all their fault for not just accepting Western dominance and rolling over. Enough bullshit about their religion making them fight back for no good reason. ___

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2014-12-26 17:32:43 (0 comments, 0 reshares, 2 +1s)Open 

Islamic goatsee.

___Islamic goatsee.

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2014-12-24 22:47:53 (0 comments, 1 reshares, 2 +1s)Open 

I really don't like Christmas music all that much. But I do like Google, and I do have their music service, so I need to use it for something.

I've played the snot out of this album. I had no idea the music was so great.

Best part, my daughter loves it too, so she'll sit and cuddle and chill out with me to some jazz. 

I really don't like Christmas music all that much. But I do like Google, and I do have their music service, so I need to use it for something.

I've played the snot out of this album. I had no idea the music was so great.

Best part, my daughter loves it too, so she'll sit and cuddle and chill out with me to some jazz. ___

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2014-12-24 22:35:46 (4 comments, 0 reshares, 9 +1s)Open 

Got this for my wife. Wrapped up to be opened at the Christmas eve gift exchange with the in laws. Real sweet card attached going on about the future and working toward an even more loving marriage. How it takes effort to be happy so long and how the gift will help.

Should get a few laughs because it's pretty clear I'm her third child. 

Got this for my wife. Wrapped up to be opened at the Christmas eve gift exchange with the in laws. Real sweet card attached going on about the future and working toward an even more loving marriage. How it takes effort to be happy so long and how the gift will help.

Should get a few laughs because it's pretty clear I'm her third child. ___

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2014-12-24 22:31:26 (3 comments, 0 reshares, 1 +1s)Open 

Oh come on. When have we ever known them to lie?

Several prominent security researchers and analysts say they aren't convinced by the FBI's evidence that North Korea was supposedly the mastermind behind the hack attack on Sony and the release of the company's emails___Oh come on. When have we ever known them to lie?

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2014-12-22 13:30:10 (3 comments, 0 reshares, 2 +1s)Open 

Dan's Morning Poop

Today's cranium crap deals with freedom of speech and how I think the way we approach the ideal is archaic. In today's global world we need to start considering other perspectives and stop defending the right to spew shit from our brains whenever we want.


Shane Arsenault
Nuke fight over a 2 1/2 star movie?

+Shane Arsenault That's actually a point I've been trying to make.

Freedom of speech should be held as important because of how much it can facilitate freedom for the people. We need to be able to say what we want so we can freely speak out against the people we entrust to govern on our behalf and keep them in check. We need to be able to spread new ideas, to innovate, and to keep moving forward to better things.

We do not need it to protect immature fools when they want to make a terrible movie that sellsi... more »

U.S. President Barack Obama is "recklessly" spreading rumours of a Pyongyang-orchestrated cyberattack of Sony Pictures, North Korea says, as it warns of strikes against the White House, Pentagon and "the whole U.S. mainland, that cesspool of terrorism."___Dan's Morning Poop

Today's cranium crap deals with freedom of speech and how I think the way we approach the ideal is archaic. In today's global world we need to start considering other perspectives and stop defending the right to spew shit from our brains whenever we want.


Shane Arsenault
Nuke fight over a 2 1/2 star movie?

+Shane Arsenault That's actually a point I've been trying to make.

Freedom of speech should be held as important because of how much it can facilitate freedom for the people. We need to be able to say what we want so we can freely speak out against the people we entrust to govern on our behalf and keep them in check. We need to be able to spread new ideas, to innovate, and to keep moving forward to better things.

We do not need it to protect immature fools when they want to make a terrible movie that sells itself on being idiotically controversial.

Knowing how the people of North Korea view their leader, and knowing we live in a global connected community, we should be grown up people about these things and consider the impact it has on them. We should ask if what we're defending is worth defending and ask if it has any purpose beyond making money for fools.

From everything I've seen and read of this movie, it isn't sophisticated enough to be called satire, at least by any decent standard. It doesn't address anything of importance and doesn't make a point about anything really at all.

So why are we defending it? On the Internet no one likes when someone knowingly aggravates other people with the sole goal of just pissing them off. We call it trolling.

So why are we defending trolls? If we want to have a good, productive, and useful global conversation it's going to mean doing the same thing any group on the Internet does to deal with trolls: moderation.

That means when we have reactions to our media like this we listen and we consider how they interpret it. Just the same when politically active groups release a movie like the Innocence of Muslims (is that what it was called?) we don't defend it and pretend it isn't just propoganda made to incite rage and violence.

It's astounding to think we could literally starts a war over the work of jerk off half ass comedians. 

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2014-12-20 16:28:46 (0 comments, 0 reshares, 2 +1s)Open 

I want people to think about this for a moment.

A while ago coca cola introduced a diet drink that used a weird cheap chemical sweetener instead of sugar. They called it diet coke.

The most logical market for that drink was women. Calories were all the rage and diet coke was marketed on not having any. It worked really well.

But, in time, diet coke became associated with women almost exclusively. To the point that ordering a diet coke was a bit unmanily.

Seeing this, coke released a new product, called coke zero. It comes in a black can, looks cool, and is targeted toward men. (Many of which likely have diabetes after years of drinking coke.)

It worked like magic. Coke zero is taking a bigger share of the market and competitors are following the trend.

The reason it's important to hear that story is because that's the story of the Wild rose party.... more »

Danielle Smith is defending her decision to cross the floor to Alberta's Progressive Conservatives, calling it a "victory" for the Wildrose Party, in an interview airing Saturday on CBC Radio's The House: http://cbc.sh/u7M7sKF___I want people to think about this for a moment.

A while ago coca cola introduced a diet drink that used a weird cheap chemical sweetener instead of sugar. They called it diet coke.

The most logical market for that drink was women. Calories were all the rage and diet coke was marketed on not having any. It worked really well.

But, in time, diet coke became associated with women almost exclusively. To the point that ordering a diet coke was a bit unmanily.

Seeing this, coke released a new product, called coke zero. It comes in a black can, looks cool, and is targeted toward men. (Many of which likely have diabetes after years of drinking coke.)

It worked like magic. Coke zero is taking a bigger share of the market and competitors are following the trend.

The reason it's important to hear that story is because that's the story of the Wild rose party. Except of course we're not talking just about men and women, although the fact most of the leaders of Wildrose are women and the PC are not so popular with women might mean we are, but it's the same idea: rebrand with slightly different flavour, but still remain essentially the same.

That sort of political manipulation should come as no surprise since there are close ties between Alberta conservatives and American conservatives. Both get advice and funding from the same oil interests and both share the same long-term interests.

But it's a bit unethical isn't it? Knowingly tricking people? Is that really the type of leader that represents Canadian values? Should it be?

In America much of the same thing is happen with the Republican party, the tea party, and the libertarian movement. Three distinct brands to fit any taste.

Hopefully Albertans reject this sort of behaviour and contradict the smug attitude from the east that they're just a bunch of hicks too stupid to know when they're being bamboozled.

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2014-12-20 15:57:01 (4 comments, 1 reshares, 5 +1s)Open 

Dan's Morning Poop

Another day off today started with evacuation of the bowels and brain. Today I critically hit +Moontanman​ with a wall of text over something I've been thinking about how the last few days. Specifically the direction of influence between religion and politics.

I say there is more, in the modern day at least, coming from politics toward religion. Moreover I think the people doing the majority of the influencing, the right, consciously try to sell the idea it's the other way to remain palatable to atheists. In the end they're lying.

Here's the poop:

They're not trying to infiltrate the government. You've got it backwards and I have to say something about it because it's critically important for people to understand the problems with religions in our societies (because every country in the world, event... more »

Dan's Morning Poop

Another day off today started with evacuation of the bowels and brain. Today I critically hit +Moontanman​ with a wall of text over something I've been thinking about how the last few days. Specifically the direction of influence between religion and politics.

I say there is more, in the modern day at least, coming from politics toward religion. Moreover I think the people doing the majority of the influencing, the right, consciously try to sell the idea it's the other way to remain palatable to atheists. In the end they're lying.

Here's the poop:

They're not trying to infiltrate the government. You've got it backwards and I have to say something about it because it's critically important for people to understand the problems with religions in our societies (because every country in the world, even the very secular ones, is dealing with it to some degree) comes not from the churches but from the politicians building their own power by using the churches.

During the late seventies conservatives made a conscious choice to sell their political ideology to people by melding it with religious narratives. In America this resulted in the evangelical revival and in Saudi Arabia it resulted in Wahhabi Islam.

Both of these religions are very much about control, domination, and obedience. They are heavy on dogma, they are puritanical, they are misogynistic, and they are very much about making people accept getting screwed without complaining. They introduce stark binary thinking and frame everything as a battle of good versus evil so everything in the world can be framed the same way. (With them taking the role of the hero.)

We even see the same thing in Pakistan. Now they're getting fucked by the escapade as the far right religious groups they used to control are breaking free and doing things such as killing the children of the wealthy people who once sponsored them. ( Same thing happened in Afghanistan to the Americans when their pet Taliban broke loose and again in Syria more recently.)

Here's a link for even more on the subject: http://www.salon.com/2014/02/22/reagans_christian_revolt_how_conservatives_hijacked_american_religion/

If you study sociology you'll realise pretty quickly that people behave together even in groups as big as societies or civilizations. It happens quite naturally and it's because we happen to be little more than hairless apes.

But the direction can be steered if you know how. Most famously we saw this happen during world war one when public in the west, America and Canada specifically, didn't want to partake. The governments used propaganda on a national scale and found it worked wonders. After the war the people involved took those skills into the public sector and the advertising industry was born.

Today political parties still use propaganda (which you can call advertising or marketing if the propaganda around the word propaganda turns you off) all the time. Often they found institutes, called think tanks, to craft it and figure out how to best sell their message.

These think tanks were used to great effect to get Bush into power. A reign that did massive damage to America in a multitude of ways, but specifically when it comes to concerns of atheists they launched the religious right into a position of power that had been receding under Clinton.

It was in these think tanks that they decided to focus on gay marriage or abortion or the war on Christmas as means to gather support so they could do other things like invade Iraq, give more money to Israel, further pressure Iran to keep them weak, etc.

The result has been issues that hadn't used to play a major role in Christian identity became central to it. Just as being Republican has in a good many ways become central to it.

The reason I say all this is because these think tanks are still operating and still trying to use their association with Christianity to sell their political ideology and gather votes.

However, they don't just focus on the Christian demographic or use social issues like abortion to tug at people's emotions, they also use an old conservative favorite: xenophobia. Today that includes specific rhetoric about Muslims, just as it did after nine eleven, and that's important because criticism of Muslims is a place where atheists and Christians often agree.

So it's no surprise they employ various atheist speakers at those think tanks to go forth and preach the truth about Muslims while also fitting in a thing or two about conservative values. They sell the idea that only conservatives are strong enough to fight the Muslims and stand up courageously to the imminent invasion.

That these atheists share an office with Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfield makes me question their integrity. It also makes me worried that we could be heading toward a future for atheism that mirrors present day Christianity. A future where politicians work with the media to create and control an atheist message. To essentially create an atheist message.

Which might be fine if they were gone people. But they're not. They're war criminals without a drop of respect for the idea of a republic or the idea of freedom.

Hell I've already seen the reaction from people when I happen to say Sam Harris is wrong. When I contradict the atheist message. I'm called a Christian or apologist and cast out of the atheist group to be an other. Seeing that makes me very worried. ___

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